「進思基督徒團契」讀《宗教右派》

[Alex]

The speaker recommends this book:

David J Hess: Science Studies
http://amazon.com/dp/0814735630

[XOX]

I would like to respond to the nonsense that our guest speaker on ID said on religion.

He is a believer of exorcism. To me, that makes him a fucking idiot and a dangerous person. He did it because he believes in bullshit-christianity. Too bad. Another wasted mind.

I would also like to add, that his mistrust of evidence would make him an anti-science person.

Just a few quotes to remind such idiots of bullshit-christian-religious.

"Allegations are not evidence.
Hearsay is not evidence.
Unsubstantiated claims are not evidence.
Personal revelation is not evidence.
Anecdotes are not evidence.
Rumors are not evidence.
Wild speculation is not evidence.
Wishful thinking is not evidence.
Illogical conclusions are not evidence.
Disproved statements are not evidence.
Logical fallacies are not evidence.
Poorly designed/executed experiments are not evidence.
Experiments with inconclusive results are not evidence.
Experiments that are not and cannot be duplicated by others are not evidence.
Dreams are not evidence.
Hallucinations/delusions are not evidence.
Experiments whose methodology is not open for scrutiny are not evidence.

Data that requires a certain belief is not evidence.
Information that is only knowable by a privileged few is not evidence.
Information that cannot be falsified is not evidence.
Information that cannot be verified is not evidence.
Information that is ambiguous is not evidence.

Hope that clears things up for everyone."


I have more expectation that someone who is against ID would not be that fucking stupid.

I guess I was wrong.

[XOX]

I would also like to quote  Steven Mading

"Everyone who says "you have to have faith" is being unreasonable, quite literally, no matter how politely they say it."

And the speaker keep saying we don't understand because we don't have faith. That is unreasonable. That's just bullshit.

[XOX]

Alex wrote

The speaker recommends this book:

David Hess: Science Studies
http://amazon.com/dp/0814735630

David J Hess is just another bullshit religious Christian. The distortion is more obvious in his other book, and I would not waste any money on any of his book.

[Alex]

向沒有參加聚會的朋友解釋：
我也記不清楚，但於討論時段，講者好像說過「你們不信者不明白」 （大意，不肯定）之類的話。


Faith is a vice, not a virtue.

Because faith shuts quest for truth.

For example, faith in UFO is a vice, shuts questions.  Being skeptical to UFO is a virtue, encourages search for truth.

Too many people just don't get it.  Even in Chinese culture, the popular phrase "善男信女" has been falsely associating faith (信) with goodness (善) for centuries.

[Alex]

向沒有參加聚會的朋友解釋：
於討論時段，講者表明：
一、他相信「趕鬼」；
二、他認為沒有所謂「證據」(evidence)，他只相信「見證」(testimony)。（大意）
對於一，主持人「貓姐」很客氣地回應：「有的話，叫我去睇！」
對於二，由於已是聚會尾聲，我們沒有進一步討論。

我個人則覺得講者是一位不可多得的，思想敏捷、言詞清晰的基督宗教信徒（屬新教褔音教派宣道會）學者。將來如能邀請他作宗教、人生哲學的討論甚或辯論（例如與無神論辯論），定能啟發一眾尋道者！

[Alex]

匈牙利基右執政黨修憲
Clement
3 Jan 2012
http://s-h-c.org/forum/showthread.php?t=33847

匈牙利基右執政黨，因有68%議席的絕對多數，而私自修憲，更改選舉辦法，削弱權力制衡機制，限制言論思想自由、媒體自由及司法權限，並將基右一系列道德觀社會政策直接寫進憲法之中，引起連串抗議浪潮，甚至有被剔除歐盟的可能。

當然，選民之所以選出基右執政黨，是因為「增加一百萬個工作崗位」的應許，而不是特別因為基右道德觀的緣故。

民主制度，誠然是有限制的。民主制度無法避免選民的短視，無法避免民粹主義，因此需要制衡機制。但無論如何，過了四五年，選民還是有權踢走瘟神，重新選出一個最好代表自己利益的政黨。但在獨裁專政政體裡面，瘟神統治黨是世代交替，沒完沒了，怎樣也趕不走，看看俄國中國等等例子就知道了。

Hungary rally over constitution
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16387117

[Alex]

教會關社＝基督教右派霸權？
蔡志森：不應有左右之分
（6月4日消息）
時代論壇

由香港性文化學會、明光社和沙田浸信會合辦，天道書樓協辦的「《基督教與現代社會的爭論》──教會關社=基督教右派霸權？暨新書發佈會」，於六月三日在沙田浸信會小瀝源堂舉行，由中國神學研究院神學科助理教授雷競業、明光社總幹事蔡志森，及香港浸會大學宗哲系副教授、香港性文化學會主席關啟文博士主講，聚會旨在透過《基督教與現代社會的爭論》新書發佈會，及三位講員的分享，讓參加者釐清教會關社與宗教右派霸權的分別，以回應坊間關於宗教右派的指控。而《基督教與現代社會的爭論》正是把多位學者、機構同工等的回應集結成書...






Alex's cpmment:  本書既封面設計好抵死，好像想與《宗教右派》對著幹似的。

[Alex]

James Dobson: Connecticut Shooting Linked To Gay Marriage
17 Dec 2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/17/james-dobson-connecticut-shooting-gay-marriage_n_2318015.html

羅永生："這位將最近校園槍擊案說成是天譴同性婚姻及墮胎的James Dobson，他創辦了的Focus on the Family組織，正就是明光社經常要去取經朝聖的聖殿..." (19 Dec 2012)
http://www.facebook.com/lawws

[Alex]

Left & Right in a drawing


http://lesopinions.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/leftright_eu_1416.gif

[Alex]

The Good News Club: The Christian Right's Stealth Assault on America's Children
Katherine Stewart
January 2012
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008SLSAY6

In 2009, the Good News Club came to the public elementary school where journalist Katherine Stewart sent her children. The Club, which is sponsored by the Child Evangelism Fellowship, bills itself as an after-school program of “Bible study.” But Stewart soon discovered that the Club’s real mission is to convert children to fundamentalist Christianity and encourage them to proselytize to their “unchurched” peers, all the while promoting the natural but false impression among the children that its activities are endorsed by the school.

Astonished to discover that the U.S. Supreme Court has deemed this—and other forms of religious activity in public schools—legal, Stewart set off on an investigative journey to dozens of cities and towns across the nation to document the impact. In this book she demonstrates that there is more religion in America’s public schools today than there has been for the past 100 years. The movement driving this agenda is stealthy. It is aggressive. It has our children in its sights. And its ultimate aim is to destroy the system of public education as we know it.

[Alex]

Christian Right Has Major Role in Hastening Decline of Religion in America
March 22, 2014
http://www.alternet.org/belief/religion-america-great-decline-christian-right-has-major-role-hastening-it