歐陽文風﹕關於同性戀,我的總回應

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Re: 古斌:同志教會,反同組織!別讓機會主義者逃掉!

I disagreed with this analysis.

I want the anti-gay Christians to show their ugly faces. Fuck Jesus. I hope more people are against fucking piece of shit Christianity.

Christianity is the root of the problem. Let them fight.
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Freddy Kam: 林以諾,我們不是白痴!

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林以諾,我們不是白痴!
Freddy Kam

把信徒當白痴1---偷換概念轉換戰線
林大牧的言論不是出於聖經立場的問題,而是因為其言論令不少同性戀者甚至癌症病人造成不必要的傷害,在演講間也失去了應有的尊重。

把信徒當白痴2---扮道歉博吃兩家茶禮
一邊道歉一邊反同,原因並不是他犯了傻,反倒是他聰明得很,要知道在公共空間內他算不得什麼,為了他的事業與聲望,他除了道歉還能作什麼?相反地,在Facebook專頁中那是他的地盤,聚集的都是他的fans和主流基督徒,在那裡反同既能成全「為義受逼迫」的大義,又能確保他在主流教會中的地位,吃遍兩家茶禮,何樂而不為?

把信徒當白痴3---借機陷害神學院學者
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楊梓燁:同志戀愛,與你何干? - 回應林以諾的言論

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同志戀愛,與你何干? - 回應林以諾的言論
楊梓燁  |  2012年6月28日  |  輔仁
http://www.vjmedia.com.hk/articles/2012/06/28/13897

自從林以諾在佈道會將同性戀類比成吸毒或殺人,引發連番聲討潮,連本身屬基督教派的宗教人士也反對他的「恐同」言說。然而,他仍然死不悔改,昨日又在facebook發表反同志運動的「膠」文...
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歐陽文風:是非顛倒,以此為最───反駁〈因為寬容,所以禁制!?〉

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是非顛倒,以此為最───反駁〈因為寬容,所以禁制!?〉
歐陽文風  |  2012.06.30  |  時代論壇
http://christiantimes.org.hk/Common/Reader/News/ShowNews.jsp?Nid=73217&Pid=6&Cid=150
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韓森:同性戀真的不是罪嗎?──回應廿二牧者聯署文告

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同性戀真的不是罪嗎?──回應六月廿五日廿二名牧者的聯署文告
韓森  |  2012.06.30  |  時代論壇
http://christiantimes.org.hk/Common/Reader/News/ShowNews.jsp?Nid=73258&Pid=1&Cid=145


韓森 = 張維 = 吳英俊 http://www.facebook.com/HansenWu
http://www.facebook.com/Elias.Tseng/posts/254835054627614
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楊梓燁:同性婚姻合法化的攻防論戰

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同性婚姻合法化的攻防論戰
楊梓燁  |  2012年7月4日  |  輔仁
http://www.vjmedia.com.hk/articles/2012/07/04/14451
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歐陽文風:再思同性戀

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再思同性戀
歐陽文風  |  2012.07.04  |  時代論壇
http://christiantimes.org.hk/Common/Reader/News/ShowNews.jsp?Nid=73280&Pid=1&Cid=145
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chan do re mi: 逐句分析係「文字獄」?林牧師你係清朝人呀?

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逐句分析係「文字獄」?林牧師你係清朝人呀?
chandoremi  |  July 5, 2012
http://chandoremi.wordpress.com/2012/07/05/1-434/
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台灣同光同志長老教會回應

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回應〈同性戀真的不是罪嗎?回應六月廿五日廿二位牧者的聯署文告〉
同光同志長老教會
時代論壇時代講場,2012.07.06
http://christiantimes.org.hk/Common/Reader/News/ShowNews.jsp?Nid=73333&Pid=6&Cid=150
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團體登廣告回應同性戀議題,指同性性行為不合神心意

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團體登廣告回應同性戀議題
指同性性行為不合神心意
時代論壇,2012.07.06
http://christiantimes.org.hk/Common/Reader/News/ShowNews.jsp?Nid=73358&Pid=1&Cid=145

嚴正聲明聖經對同性戀的立場
聖經清楚指出:「同性」性行為並不合乎神的心意:

(一)在創世記中可看到一個指導性原則(創一:26-28),就是一夫一妻制屬於創世秩序一部份,在婚姻以外的性行為都不符合神的心意,當然同性性行為也不是例外。在新約,這個規範亦由主耶穌肯定。
(二)聖經多處指出同性性行為違反神的律法(利十八:22;林前六:9;提前一:10),而且是「逆性」的行為(羅一:26-27)。

有誤以為聖經所反對的不是同性戀本身(如兩情相悅的同性愛),而是一些不合理的同性性行為(如孌童和濫交);好像是將同性戀定罪的經文都有時代限制,不能應用於今時;就如一些好像貶低女性或支持奴隸制度的經文;但按聖經真理:將同性戀問題比喻為女性、奴隸等問題並不正確,因為聖經無論在創造和救贖上都肯定男女的平等,也在不同地方從根本顛覆奴隸制度的精神(如舊約律法和阿尼西母的例子),加拉太書三章28節更清楚宣告在基督裡再沒有男女、自主為奴之別。然而關於同性性行為,由舊約到新約只有一律的譴責!

吾等謹嚴正聲明堅守聖經之立場,並呼籲基督徒對罪絕不妥協,對陷入罪惡及傾向犯罪者則常備恩慈與協助,教會更向會眾推行屬靈教導,以達成基督的大使命!

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以《聖經》定罪同性性行為乃錯在教條主義地定罪

基督宗教中基要主義和褔音主義教派根據《聖經》(如利十八、羅一、林前六、提前一)定同性性行為是「罪」。
這立場最根本的錯處在於它定罪的方法論。
該定罪的方法論是教條主義的。
教條主義,在於依照一本所謂「神話語」的古書定義甚麼是罪。
教條主義的定罪方法論可以以這句總括:「罪的定義乃是由神來決定」。
教條主義錯在蠻不講理;「神」或那本書說吃蘋果是罪,吃蘋果便是罪,不問理由、不加批判,盲目遵從。
教條主義的定罪方法害人,把無辜的好人變成罪人。
一樣行為是否有罪,應該取決於該行為會否傷害他人,而非教條主義地盲目跟從權威,無論是一本書的權威甚或是所謂「神」的權威。
吃蘋果,類比同性性行為,屬私人品味範疇,不傷害他人,本來不是罪,只因某本人寫的、可以錯的古書說「神憎惡」吃蘋果,便教條主義地定吃蘋果是「罪」,吃蘋果的人便無辜地由無罪變成「有罪」,須承受指控甚至懲罰的傷害。
教條主義的定罪方法就是這樣害人的。
(諷刺地,害人的定罪者還曉說「關愛」那個他們製造出來的「罪人」。)
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歐陽文風牧師駁關啟文

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不是謬誤,是你誤讀──回應關啟文的〈同運論述的常見謬誤〉
歐陽文風
時代論壇時代講場,2012.07.07
http://christiantimes.org.hk/Common/Reader/News/ShowNews.jsp?Nid=73368&Pid=6&Cid=150
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David Blankenhorn: How My View on Gay Marriage Changed

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How My View on Gay Marriage Changed
By DAVID BLANKENHORN
June 22, 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/23/opinion/how-my-view-on-gay-marriage-changed.html

"For me, the most important is the equal dignity of homosexual love. I don’t believe that opposite-sex and same-sex relationships are the same, but I do believe, with growing numbers of Americans, that the time for denigrating or stigmatizing same-sex relationships is over. Whatever one’s definition of marriage, legally recognizing gay and lesbian couples and their children is a victory for basic fairness."

"So my intention is to try something new. Instead of fighting gay marriage, I’d like to help build new coalitions bringing together gays who want to strengthen marriage with straight people who want to do the same. For example, once we accept gay marriage, might we also agree that marrying before having children is a vital cultural value that all of us should do more to embrace? Can we agree that, for all lovers who want their love to last, marriage is preferable to cohabitation?..."
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Google Announces Worldwide Campaign To Legalize Same-Sex Marriage

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Google Announces Worldwide Campaign To Legalize Same-Sex Marriage
Think Progress, Jul 7, 2012

Today, Google has announced an ambitious effort to legalize same-sex marriage across the globe...

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歐陽文風再回應韓森

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拜托,這不是雙重標準!──回應韓森
歐陽文風
時代論壇,2012.07.12
http://christiantimes.org.hk/Common/Reader/News/ShowNews.jsp?Nid=73438
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浸聯會宣道會播道會聲明聖經對同性戀立場

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浸聯會宣道會播道會
發聲明表明聖經對同性戀立場
時代論壇,2012.07.20
http://christiantimes.org.hk/Common/Reader/News/ShowNews.jsp?Nid=73589&Pid=1&Cid=145
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明光社講座

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「基督教與同性戀」講座
陳恩明:盼教會彰顯愛與真理
時代論壇,2012.7.12
http://christiantimes.org.hk/Common/Reader/News/ShowNews.jsp?Nid=73449&Pid=1&Cid=837

由明光社主辦的「短片裡的風波──基督教與同性戀」講座,已於昨晚(七月十一日)假恩福堂長沙灣廣場聚會點舉行,由基督教豐盛生命堂榮譽會牧陳恩明、精神科醫生康貴華及明光社總幹事蔡志森,分別從聖經、與同性戀者同行的經驗、對同性戀運動的觀察分享及回應,逾二百人出席...
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香港心理學會聲明反對改變性傾向「治療」

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代表全港註冊臨床心理學家的
香港心理學會臨床心理學分會
發表聲明反對改變性傾向「治療」
心理學家致力消除對同志的社會歧視及偏見
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151023367468168

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陳到:嚴正表明聖經對鬍鬚的立場

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嚴正表明聖經對鬍鬚的立場
陳到 Do Chan
JULY 21, 2012
有種美德叫有種 THE WRITINGS OF AN INGLORIOUS PASTOR
http://chandoremi.wordpress.com/2012/07/21/1-446/
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黃國堯:福音派的愚昧

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福音派的愚昧
黃國堯牧師
21/7/2012
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